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Darklord
21-04-2009, 11:05 AM
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I have pleasure in announcing the third of our special painting contests.
This one is sponsored by Avatars of War.

here are the rules:

You must be a Wamp Member to participate although membership is free.

You may enter as many times as you like but each entry may only submit one photograph so if you need more angles it MUST be a montage
any additional photographs of that entry will be removed

Each entrant is only eligible for one prize. In the event of an entrant winning more than one prize they will receive the prize of highest value - any subsequent prizes will be awarded to the next highest placed entrant.

All entries must be new work

You give Wamp and Avatars of War permission to use your pictures for publicity (but you do retain owenrship)

You may post pictures of WIp or final shots both here and elsewhere

Judging will be decided a special guest judge - Supervike.

The deadline for submission is 17th May Midnight GMT

Submissions must be posted to the Avatars of War album

All entries must feature Avatars of War miniatures only. You may use accesories and bases from opther companies.

You may enter a single miniature,diorama full 300 piece battle scene - whatever you like as long as its Avatars of War.

Any problems or questions then feel free to ask here or pm me

Now the good bit:
the prizes

1st place - Arena DeathMatch rulebook (signed by Felix) + 3 miniatures
2nd place - Arena DeathMatch rulebook + 2 miniatures
3rd place - 3 miniatures


for more info or to join wamp goto: www.wamp-forum.com

if you have any questions feel free to contact me

Brett

their website is here:
http://www.arena-deathmatch.com/index.htm

Darklord
21-04-2009, 11:06 AM
here is some info on Arena Deathmatch :

Arena DeathMatch: The game of miniatures combat in fantasy arenas.

Avatars of War: Arena DeathMatch is a 28mm miniatures game that depicts the bloody clash between two or more bands of heroes facing off on the floor of the arena, in front of a raucous crowd that is thirsty for action, violence and death. This deadly contest is known as a deathmatch.

The most powerful heroes among the mortal races are known as the Avatars of War—heroes chosen by the Gods of War themselves. These Avatars, in addition to being fierce combatants, are able to draw upon the silver of divinity within their souls for the power to expand their already awesome combat abilities.

In Arena DeathMatch, each player controls a band of Avatars of War as they face off on the arena
floor in front of a cheering (or jeering) crowd.

The perils of the Arena stand against you: traps, hazards and even savage beasts stand between you and your opponent. The door to the Arena opens, and the shouting crowd is eager to see their favourite heroes fight to the death.Will they be cheering your victory... or your death? There’s only one way to find out!

Arena DeathMatch games are played to a number of points which state the the size of the game: that is, the total amount of gold coins (gc) that each player can spend to recruit and train his Avatars of War. For example you can play a 750 gc deathmatch, a 800 gc deathmatch, ...

Commonly, each player will recruit between four and seven Avatars of War for his band. Recruiting and training your Avatars of War is an important part of Arena DeathMatch. You should now spend some time reading the rules for each Avatar of War in the rulebook and considering the possibilities and combinations available. The Arena DeathMatch band maker is a perfect tool to experiment different options for your band.

You can choose the Avatars of War that better fit your gaming style, for example, a ranged combat based band, or a close combat based one, or even a band full of spellcasters! You can also choose your Avatars of War simply based on the look of their miniatures. It is up to you!

New material is created monthly to enrich the game: new Avatars of War to join your band, beasts and ultra supporter groups, more scenery elements to spice up your arena, and new scenarios. These are just some of the things that take Arena DeathMatch beyond its rulebook

Smylo
21-04-2009, 02:32 PM
Hi all,

I am the Studio Manager of Avatars of War and I encourage everyone to take part in this contest !!

Good Luck and Have Fun !!!

Ignasi Ferrer
Studio Manager
Avatars of War

Darklord
21-04-2009, 02:34 PM
Hi Ignasi, nice to see you here!

there you go guys - AoW themselves are watching what you can do!

RogerB
21-04-2009, 02:59 PM
Welcome, Ignasi! Great to see the company take close attention.

I'm currently working on mine. I'm afraid it won't be anything fancy, like a whole arena, although that would have been great but I'm just concentrating on trying to actually finish a mini.

Darklord
21-04-2009, 03:05 PM
im going for the Beastman Lord - though i am sorely tempted to spend some more money!!

Moth
21-04-2009, 03:07 PM
I thought that I owned some aow stuff, but sadly no.
Would have been a push anyway with entries to do for the ladder, wamp monthly and TT on Wyrd!

Good luck everyone!

Undave
21-04-2009, 03:32 PM
Are we still OK to do the whole component swapping thing like with the Gamezone competition (not that I actually managed to submit anything for it)? I was planning on doing a weapon and shield swap on my entry.

Darklord
21-04-2009, 03:35 PM
yes thats fine - as long as its still obviously AoW and the swapped bits are subtle in their origins

Smylo
21-04-2009, 03:51 PM
For sure we will keep eyes around !

Ignasi Ferrer
Studio Manager
www.avatars-of-War.com

NeatPete
21-04-2009, 04:00 PM
Thanks Ignasi!
I'm excited about this one. This will be my first Dwarf in over 15 years!!! (and first since I started thinning/mixing paints) Should be done prepping him soon. His awesome mohawk is staring at me from across my workbench.

Darklord
21-04-2009, 04:14 PM
me too - got 2 others to squeeze in before i can start mine, lovely casting on it too

Nameless
21-04-2009, 04:47 PM
I'm considering the fat goblin (sorry, but I have to call him Grom the Paunch ;)) and dwarf with guns.
I won't have time for both, so I have to choose only one of them.

Darklord
21-04-2009, 04:51 PM
choices choices!! go for the goblin - petes doing a dwarf

Nameless
21-04-2009, 05:06 PM
not the same dwarf though. and as for the goblin - I believe arctica wants to paint the smaller one.
what's left for me now? another elf? naah... :)

Smylo
21-04-2009, 05:07 PM
I'm considering the fat goblin (sorry, but I have to call him Grom the Paunch ;)) and dwarf with guns.
I won't have time for both, so I have to choose only one of them.

Hi Nameless,

If you go for Krork Toadgobbler, the Goblin King...this is the art work that can help you to try the colours scheme or some inspiration ;)


http://arena-deathmatch.com/images/artwork_krork.jpg

Ignasi Ferrer
Studio Manager
www.avatars-of-War.com

Darklord
21-04-2009, 05:08 PM
paint what you want - there was goign to be three venerable dudes in the gamezone at one point - (but i scared the others off!)

waghorn41
21-04-2009, 05:09 PM
I wasn't going to enter but now the Dark Elf Queen is out and she's screaming 'paint me!'

Darklord
21-04-2009, 05:13 PM
you wouldnt want him sat on ya!!

im getting more tempted to buy another mini - damn you!!

Moth
21-04-2009, 05:16 PM
Any ideas what the average postage times are from the online shop?

Darklord
21-04-2009, 05:21 PM
not sure , order one and see!

lizcam
21-04-2009, 05:26 PM
I'm doing the Thunder Lord. I love dwarves and everyone does the other one all the time. I tried to pick him up at Salute but they were out but this one came in the mail while I was at Roger's house so I snagged him. Looking forward to this!

Nameless
21-04-2009, 05:28 PM
I you go for Krork Toadgobbler, the Goblin King...this is the art work that can help you to try the colours scheme or some inspiration ;)
no Ignasi, I meant Grom the Paunch... that was my favourite gw special character, and your gobbo king will be called by me Grom the Paunch, no matter what you say :)
thanks for the artwork, it indeed may be helpful :)



paint what you want
I intend to :)



Any ideas what the average postage times are from the online shop?
international/domestic? AoW directly?

Smylo
21-04-2009, 06:01 PM
Any ideas what the average postage times are from the online shop?

Hi springbok,

If you want order directly from AoW online shop, write in the order form (box comments)==> WAMP CONTEST, and I will take care for your order :D

Ignasi Ferrer
Studio Manager
www.avatars-of-War.com

RogerB
21-04-2009, 07:27 PM
Well, as everyone else is saying which one they're painting, I'm painting the barbarian. I also have the Orc Warlord but I had a clearer idea of what I wanted for the barbarian and his base.

Darklord
21-04-2009, 07:38 PM
your actually gonna paint him - for real?

lizcam
21-04-2009, 07:41 PM
I got the barbarian at Salute too just in case the dwarf didn't show up before I left England. I'm glad it did, though. I like the dwarf better.

RogerB
21-04-2009, 07:43 PM
your actually gonna paint him - for real?

I'm going to try, that's all I can promise.

Darklord
21-04-2009, 07:47 PM
i hope you get it done om dying to see wat your painting skill is!!

RogerB
21-04-2009, 08:07 PM
Hopefully better than your spelling.

Moth
21-04-2009, 08:37 PM
Thank you Ignasi! Thats very kind of you.

Vern
21-04-2009, 10:29 PM
Welcome Ignasi :D

Think I'm going for the Lord of Chaos, although the Dwarf Thunderlord looks nice ....

Nameless
22-04-2009, 09:00 AM
I don't have a dwarf in my collection, so thunderlord is my choice

Moth
22-04-2009, 09:11 AM
Lord of chaos it is then!

Smylo
22-04-2009, 12:21 PM
Announced in our main page the WAMP contest event :lol:

Here (http://www.arena-deathmatch.com/forums/portal.php)

Ignasi Ferrer
Studio Manager
www.Avatars-of-War.com

ScottRadom
23-04-2009, 03:00 AM
paint what you want - there was goign to be three venerable dudes in the gamezone at one point - (but i scared the others off!)

If I ever, ever, make it to your country and find a voodoo doll of me with a big knife in it's gut..... Not even the dark powers of the Haitian art of zuvembification will save you!

I want to get a couple done. I will for sure be doing the Goblin King (defo. NOT grom the paunch.... it's the goblin king!) and the black orc looking warboss. I can't paint until my medication is done though. Gives me the dizzyness and some shakes. Hoping it's the medication and not permanent nerve damage (knock on wood!).

SilentBob
23-04-2009, 03:10 AM
Hey, welcome back! You was robbed, I tell you. Robbed! ;)

EldinTux
23-04-2009, 08:37 AM
Right Brett, dont get the voodoo out too early, we want people to buy mini's from AoW so that they may sponsor a comp in the future :)

As to what I'm painting I have the little goblin dude here (I'm starting to sound like Scott, Aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhh)

Gonna see if I have the time to get him done

Darklord
23-04-2009, 10:17 AM
Right Brett, dont get the voodoo out too early, we want people to buy mini's from AoW so that they may sponsor a comp in the future :)



dont need no voodoo guys - just brush fu of the highest order (available from anders in a jar)

Coneman
24-04-2009, 12:25 PM
I am going to try get the Goblin King done in time, as well as finish my Wyrd entry.
Is that brush fu expensive? I could use some.
I hope they dont end up as more WIPs on the table.

supervike
24-04-2009, 02:28 PM
Avatars of War certainly live up to their name!

I can't wait to see what you folks come up with. Really looking forward to this.

I fell in love with Felix's sculpting ability waaaaay back with DragonRune miniatures.

RogerB
24-04-2009, 03:06 PM
Well the base has been crafted like the masterpiece it is, well, okay, so it's got some rocks and sand on it, but it's ready to be painted and the barbarian is just waiting for a spot of greenstuff to cure.

Undave
24-04-2009, 03:36 PM
http://shop.idmsports.com.au/images/First%20Aid%20-%20Dettol%20-%20Liquid%20(250ml).jpg
I see this in its future :twisted:

waghorn41
24-04-2009, 05:31 PM
Just ordered my Dark Elf Queen from CMON with a ltd ed fig, hope she arrives in time.

Darklord
24-04-2009, 06:14 PM
ooh thanks for reminding me undave - mines nearly run out - got one of Ians paintjobs to dettolise!

RogerB
24-04-2009, 06:42 PM
Ooh that was mean Brett.

Actually, Marmaduke, I'm okay for dettol, I have a full bottle on top of the bathroom cabinet.

Darklord
24-04-2009, 06:51 PM
no seriously - he very kindly donated his penitent engine to my slayer sword winning entry

RogerB
24-04-2009, 06:53 PM
Ah, okay then, carry on. :whistle:

Darklord
24-04-2009, 07:04 PM
thanks officer

Vern
24-04-2009, 10:29 PM
Dark Elf Queen from CMON ... hope she arrives in time.

The last two orders I got from CMON were pretty quick (about 10 days I think) compared to last year's times

ScottRadom
25-04-2009, 12:05 AM
Dark Elf Queen from CMON ... hope she arrives in time.

The last two orders I got from CMON were pretty quick (about 10 days I think) compared to last year's times

My one and only order from CMON came fast.... and incomplete. Still haven't gotten the base metals from the Vallejo alcohol metal set, making the ones I did get not as useful.

Vern
25-04-2009, 12:06 AM
Well, I put in a order last November & it took ages (seemed like months), but the last order came pretty quickly - luck of the draw I suppose

Darklord
25-04-2009, 09:25 AM
i start mine monday - whoo hoo!

agproductions
27-04-2009, 08:14 PM
I've never painted an AoW figure before, but they really look nice. Reminds me of the original Rackham figures before they started mass producing stuff.

I'm definately in on this contest. Ordered a fig yesterday. Hopefully it will arrive in time.

Darklord
28-04-2009, 09:12 AM
they are nice, i had a couple of iffy mould lines but the casting is lovely. welcome aboard btw!

Darklord
28-04-2009, 01:44 PM
mines all prepped - just waiting for the damn rain to stop so i can prime it. Ordered a custom built base for this sucker.

NeatPete
28-04-2009, 04:22 PM
I still need to greenstuff mine and figure out a base. I'm almost done with my Ladder mini so when thats finished, I'm onto this. Any suggestions on the base for the Beserking Dwarf? He's standing on an orks head, so I have to try and think about that... I kinda want to do a dungean looking base versus an outdoor thing.... hmmm... I may try and use a Wyrd sewer insert or something and do it in a forge/multen lava kinda look, IDK, I'm drawing a base blank...

Darklord
28-04-2009, 06:52 PM
pete im in the same boat - i have no idea on the base at all, my custom base is actually a plinth more. think i will get the mini started so i can focus on him. I begun 6 new projects yesterday so the mind has been multi tasking. Think i shall try and improve on the gamezone base i did

Nameless
29-04-2009, 10:41 AM
well, mine is based on custom-made base, primed, and has some of skin parts painted.

Coneman
29-04-2009, 02:13 PM
I have no idea about the base for mine but the painting is comming along quite nicely.
The biggest problem will be getting good pics.

Darklord
29-04-2009, 03:07 PM
oh god - dont even start about photos !! im gonna ship mine to roger to do i think!

Schlunz
30-04-2009, 11:27 AM
First of all... Hi everyone as i am new to this forum :)

I just hopped over from the arena deathmatch forum when reading the infos about an avatars competition. Thats a real good opportunity to motivate myself to work again on my avatars band. So i am trying to participate. At the moment i have the chaos dwarf on my working table. If i find enough time i might be able to finish a second miniature before the deadline. But still dont know which mini i will paint after the dwarf is finished...
I wish everyone happy painting :)

Darklord
30-04-2009, 11:33 AM
Hi Schlunz, welcome to wamp. so many nice AoW minis to choose from !! look forward to seeing what you do. feel free to post WIP's shots if you want to

Vern
30-04-2009, 02:07 PM
Hello Schlunz, welcome to the boards :D looking forward to your entry(s)

RogerB
30-04-2009, 04:36 PM
Welcome, Schlunz!

lizcam
30-04-2009, 06:02 PM
Oooo!!! A specialist has joined us. Welcome Schlunz. There are some good painters in on this one. Good luck! I think we'll all need it!

NeatPete
30-04-2009, 06:57 PM
All these ringers showing up.... Thought this was a WAMP contest!

Oh well, should be fun, and I bet we see some great stuff!
Welcome all!

Pyro Stick
01-05-2009, 11:37 AM
Damn, i wish i had found out about this sooner as im quite a slow painter. Ive got 2 avatars of war lying around (dark elf sorceress and lord) so i will try and get one of them painted up, probably the dark elf lord.

Darklord
01-05-2009, 11:39 AM
welcome along pyro, hope to see you get something in. plenty more contests after this too so have a check of them

ScottRadom
01-05-2009, 04:46 PM
I started by Goblin King yesterday. I spent 10 min. painting then had to have a two hour nap due to the effort. Bleck.

Vern
01-05-2009, 05:09 PM
I spent 10 min. painting then had to have a two hour nap

Lightweight! :lol:

Seriously though, that's good - a little everyday & you'll soon be back to normal (erm :shock:)

lizcam
01-05-2009, 05:20 PM
Welcome to you too Pyro. All these new men to play wi.......oh. Did I typ that out loud? Sorry. hehehe

RogerB
01-05-2009, 06:23 PM
Well, I've started shading the skin on the barbarian. Hopefully it will be fine this time.

agproductions
02-05-2009, 05:21 AM
I want to start working on mine....but CMON still hasn't delivered it yet. Lord willing, I'll actually have it sometime before July :D

Ah well. Hopefully it will arrive soon.

Pyro Stick
04-05-2009, 12:28 PM
Ive got my dark elf undercoated and ready for paint. I lost a piece though so i need to get a replacement sent out. I just cant decide on a colour scheme for him. I hate all the black colour schemes people have been giving him so i might just go for what i know how to do best, red and gold. What do people think of red and gold for the dark elf? Will it work? Would some kind of blue colour scheme work better (the other colour im thinking about)?

Schlunz
04-05-2009, 01:03 PM
I painted my dark elf prince some weeks ago and used a red/purple/silver combination with a green coat. Imho red or blue works very well for a dark elf. Here is a (not so good) pic of my elf, maybe it helps you to get an imagination of how red color works on him.
Dark Elf Prince (http://tabletop.nftu.de/sys_img/schlunz004.JPG)
Have fun painting this nice miniature!

ScottRadom
04-05-2009, 11:47 PM
Cool, looks like you've got a collection of AoW stuff Schlunz!

I made very good progress on my Goblin King mini today. Should be done tomorrow or maybe early Wed. I am waiting for a Dragon model to soak in Simple Green to try and knock off by the weekend as well. Feels very good to be able to paint again!

Schlunz
05-05-2009, 07:25 AM
Nice to hear you re able to paint again and i am already very curious to see your goblin king as i really like that model.
And also for a dragon. I love dragons but never ever painted one. I always wanted to but all the draogon models i liked came at a pretty high price (like the oracle dragon i.e. :? ).
Yes i have a collection of AoW minis as i am playing the game but until now there was only the playing arena, the necromancer and dark elf painted.
Unfortunately this will also be the reason why my contest entries will not get a special base because i want to use the minis for gaming purposes later on, so they should fit to the sandy floor of the arena.
I am nearly done with the chaos dwarf, just not been able to take any good pics... did i mention i hate this photography thing :x ?
Now started my goblin avatar.

arctica
05-05-2009, 10:12 AM
Nice paintjob, i would try and get individual photo shots for each of your minis, just stick a bit of plain paper behind each one to give it a better background, but seriously i hate taking photos too ;) if you've seen some of my dire pictures you'll think yours aren't too bad. Anyway it's good to get more people joining in the fun :D. I'd love to see your whole collection of AoW minis all painted up, plus would be awesome in the arena !

Darklord
05-05-2009, 05:08 PM
nice work schlunz.

finalyy got back to mine today - trying out some vallejo model air metallics for the first time - they are a lot smoother than the usual metallics

Schlunz
05-05-2009, 05:39 PM
Yep, i also often use these air metallics when painting true meta . They are great imho!

ScottRadom
06-05-2009, 12:12 AM
I tired the Vallejo Air metal today, great stuff!

Arctica- That's a great paintjob, magnificent! Great first entry for the comp and the bar has really been set!

Darklord
06-05-2009, 10:15 AM
2 great entries in there now - think i will need to up my game here

Nameless
06-05-2009, 10:24 AM
arctica, Schlunz - great minis!
I'm slowly painting my thunderlord and I don't like results achieved so far. I hope I can finish it on time, even if I don't really like my entry.

RogerB
06-05-2009, 03:05 PM
Grrr, I 'effed up the face on the barbarian. Had to carefully scrape the paint off. Unfortunately I removed some of the small details or smoothed them out. I'll have to add them back in when shading/highlighting. It doesn't help I'm feeling like crap at the moment.

ScottRadom
06-05-2009, 03:09 PM
I'll be done mine in a couple O'Hours. Gotta find the good camera though!

Darklord
06-05-2009, 04:02 PM
mines coming along slowly - this dam head problem is making painting hard - docs in the morning so hopefully will find out what the problem is. anyway just deciding wether to play safe or go for somethingdifferent on this. how does a rusty weapon with red hot runes on it sound?

arctica
06-05-2009, 04:55 PM
Grrr, I 'effed up the face on the barbarian. Had to carefully scrape the paint off. Unfortunately I removed some of the small details or smoothed them out. I'll have to add them back in when shading/highlighting. It doesn't help I'm feeling like crap at the moment.

No rush to try and finish it, still got ages before the deadline :) should just take a fresh look at it then let it frustrate you further.

be happy ! think of little bunnies hopping around in a little field :D

@DL: might work well :) would be interesting to see.

and cheers guys for the nice comments :) a bit rushed on my part but only cos i wanted to kill some more zombies in call of duty 5 :D

Darklord
06-05-2009, 05:14 PM
hmm hasnt worked!! maybe i'll go for just some lit runes instead

RogerB
06-05-2009, 06:15 PM
Face is fixed-ish, needs tidying up tomorrow.

The thing is, with my health issues, there's never plenty of time.

NeatPete
06-05-2009, 07:33 PM
The base is hauntung me... I can't get started on it... Lame. I'll HAVE to start it tonight or I'll be SOL next week when I get back in town.

ScottRadom
06-05-2009, 07:52 PM
I finished mine, but may do a little bit extra depending on the crit's I get, it's over here.....

http://wamp-forum.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=938&highlight=

Coneman
08-05-2009, 03:46 AM
I had mine finished, then I dropped it and, well you know what happened :cry:

Its not that bad, I can fix it up. :)

Darklord
08-05-2009, 10:31 AM
im struggling to get mine done, i was hoping to get 2 entries in for the wyrd contests but wont have time. this bad head is crippling me and the dodgy vision its enducing means paintings a stop start affair - fingers crossed i can get him done

Darklord
08-05-2009, 02:22 PM
well got a little done today managed to paint 4 runes in the last 3 days!

ScottRadom
08-05-2009, 02:59 PM
I feel for ya. Nothin' worse then havign your brain taken away from you. For three weeks plus there it was veru hard to focus, sit all that stuff, but the worst part was the mental fog. I don't like when forces take away my razor sharp mind!

Best of luck, and I hope their able to identify and repair whatever's going on!

Darklord
08-05-2009, 08:20 PM
cheers buddy, not being too bad today - had to stop a few times as painting seems to aggrevate it abit . just finished painting the dead skin complete with tattoo. should have asked you about what ldead flesh looks like when left! oh well its done now.
if all goes well he should get finished although i have no idea on a base yet!

waghorn41
08-05-2009, 09:42 PM
Hell, just realised ther's only a week left and my mini has just been shipped by CMON. Looks like I'll be a non-starter never mind dnf.

RogerB
08-05-2009, 10:11 PM
You should have said something earlier, I have a spare barbarian.

Vern
08-05-2009, 11:40 PM
I've a spare Dark elf & Thunderlord - can post Monday? Gives you a week

ScottRadom
08-05-2009, 11:41 PM
I've a spare Dark elf & Thunderlord - can post Monday? Gives you a week

If that doesn't work I'd love to do a trade with you Vern. LMK!

Vern
08-05-2009, 11:45 PM
Yeah, no problem - might have a spare Chaos Lord too, depends whether I need a helmet (ie f*ck'd up his face) or shield (ie f*cked up his armour) after the comp finishes :lol:

ScottRadom
08-05-2009, 11:48 PM
It's all sold, if you like! I do like painting the AoW stuff, and it seems to move on eBay which works well for me. I think I'm gonna put a little more effort into that side of painting coming up.

Vern
08-05-2009, 11:51 PM
Fair enough, we'll see what the crack is after the comp? (at least I'll be sober!)
Ebay, is a fair comment - I really need to start painting 15mm DBA's up again

waghorn41
09-05-2009, 08:13 AM
Thanks for the offers but the only mini \I really like from AoW is the Dark Elf Queen. TBH I couldn't get any enthusiasm for painting any of the other minis.

Darklord
09-05-2009, 09:42 AM
i like most of them - even with the struggles i have had with this i have really enjoyed painting it, nice casting, good detail and i will definatley be buying more in the future

RogerB
11-05-2009, 02:31 PM
Oh well, only a few days left and way too much to do on the mini, as well as my eyes are tired and won't focus properly for long today. I tried but didn't give myself enough time to get this done for the competition deadline. I guess I should have started work on it instead of doing a bit of work on the Grey Knights after my trip. The plan now is to finish it as well as the GKs before the next PB meeting.

I don't think I'm going to be able to do the Westwind one, either as that would just end up with me leaving the other stuff again and I really want to get them finished.

Darklord
11-05-2009, 06:13 PM
thats a shame Roger at least your getting some painting done which is a start maybe we can persuade AoW to sponosr another one for you to enter!!

RogerB
11-05-2009, 06:18 PM
I'd like that. I've enjoyed painting this one so far.

Darklord
12-05-2009, 02:28 PM
me too - lets hope we get a good turnout for them and who knows!

been out of action most of the day with bad head - hoping to get the horns done today then initial painting is done. need to go back and touch up a fair bit - i think my eyesight's been out with this bad head and its shown in places. still havent started the base yet. got a pack of goodies last week from anatecoltis workshop so will try some water effects and stuff on this base

RogerB
12-05-2009, 02:47 PM
Aye, AWs is a shop where I can sink loads of money. I recently bought some of those Plus Models leaves.

Darklord
12-05-2009, 02:57 PM
i got some leaves - not sure if they are the same though was only buying some long grass and ended up going over £30 in no time

RogerB
12-05-2009, 03:04 PM
The little paper leaves in the plastic boxes. Not cheap but very good.

Darklord
12-05-2009, 03:22 PM
no these are the real leaves. should last a while like!

Smylo
12-05-2009, 11:20 PM
Hi,

News, news from Avatars of War !!!!

War Priest !

The War Priest set is available. The pic shows only two of the several different options, allowing putting together different minis by choosing from optional weapons, heads, and cloak.

This model has been sculpted by Felix Paniagua with conceptual help from Des Hanley.

http://arena-deathmatch.com/images/aow20_blister_bhhc.jpg

http://arena-deathmatch.com/images/aow20_blister_cshc.jpg

I really hope you like it!

Ignasi Ferrer
Studio Manager
www.avatars-of-War.com

ScottRadom
13-05-2009, 12:11 AM
I was actually just thinking when something Empire-ish would come from AoW. I like this mini!

Undave
13-05-2009, 12:46 AM
BUM BIKKITS! There's not enough time to get one over here and painted up to enter in the competition.

Oh well another Arch Lector model is just what the Emperor ordered so I'll wait for Arty to get one in.

Nameless
13-05-2009, 08:57 AM
It's a cool sigmar priest, but I'd prefer AoW to release something less GW-ish :)

As for the contest - I might not have enough time to finish my entry :( Even if I do finish it, I won't have enough time to achieve quality level I would like :(

Darklord
13-05-2009, 09:13 AM
ooh i like that - im not normally a warrior priest fan but hes nice - prefer the first head choice.

RogerB
13-05-2009, 09:44 AM
Another fine mini. Added to my list of things to buy.

Darklord
13-05-2009, 09:57 AM
never get shorter these lists do they!!

Darklord
13-05-2009, 11:40 AM
well i finally got mine painted going to start the base now still not sure what to do, the plinths i was after havent arrived yet so will see. at least these bloody headaches and blurry vission is starting to ease away (about bloody time !)
he's actually turned out quite well but im dreading photographing him!

RogerB
13-05-2009, 11:45 AM
You could send me the pics before you submit them and I can see what I can do or if I have any advice. I'm still learning myself.

If it's a square plinth you were going to use you could make one out of plasticard, unless you were going for the wood plinth look.

Coneman
13-05-2009, 11:58 AM
Well thats mine done and uploaded.
I didnt have such a hard time taking the pics of mine, I didnt need to take my usual 4 or 5 hundred pics to get a few god ones.
I must have had the photography gods watching over me for once.

RogerB
13-05-2009, 12:00 PM
Nice job, Coneman.

Coneman
13-05-2009, 12:11 PM
Thanks.
This guy was a treat to paint and I am going to get another and do it as a big fat ******* type.

Pyro Stick
13-05-2009, 12:40 PM
Well it doesnt look like ill be able to enter this after all, eventhough i really wanted to. Loads of things happened this week that gave me no time to paint. Maybe next time.

EldinTux
13-05-2009, 12:54 PM
Plenty of comps still on Pyro, looking forward to seeing some entries from you :)

Darklord
13-05-2009, 01:17 PM
nice entry coneman - some nice entries building here - who else has got some to submit?

waghorn41
13-05-2009, 04:30 PM
The mini I ordered arrived today but it's a multi part kit! Going to take me forever to put together so I'll have to miss out this time. :cry:

Darklord
13-05-2009, 04:41 PM
wuss!

nico_fig
14-05-2009, 10:50 AM
Hi everyone !
I am new in your community and i am very intersting by this contest, so i have take my little avatar of war minis and i am doing my best to do somthing good... to bad for win but good for fun !
Good luck all and see you soon.

Nico.

RogerB
14-05-2009, 10:54 AM
Welcome, Nico. Introduce yourself a little in the Introductions section. Hope you enjoy the place and stick around.

Darklord
14-05-2009, 10:57 AM
hi Nico - nice to have you here.

times ticking - get painting! sunday will soon be here!

just finished the worse part on my mini - varnishing! seems to be ok thank god. dont like doing it but some areas went glossy with washes so had too.
anyway base is half way through construction, hoping to possibly get it finished today and painted - if not then tomorrow then the dreaded photos!!

supervike
15-05-2009, 02:45 PM
Can I start judging yet? Can I can i can i ????

Darklord
15-05-2009, 02:49 PM
soon my pretty, soon

Darklord
15-05-2009, 04:26 PM
well mines finished taken me all day to do the base but its my best yet i think. need to take photos but i think i will do that tomorrow as i have the whole day on it.

Vern
15-05-2009, 05:42 PM
Think I may be dnf'ing this one :( (& it started so well)

Darklord
15-05-2009, 05:44 PM
another wuss!!
we got 7 entries in so far - all nice uns too. hopefully we can get a few more yet - theres at least mine and scotts yet i think

Vern
15-05-2009, 06:00 PM
another wuss!!

:oops: guilty :lol:

Darklord
15-05-2009, 06:05 PM
take him down

NeatPete
15-05-2009, 06:44 PM
I'd have to say WAMP'ers, I'm a little dissapointed in the turnout so far. The entries that are in are very nice, but most of them are from newbies that joined just for the contest! These contests are announced so far ahead that you really should be able to order something and get if finished in ample time. I understand that things happen and life flares up on ya, but cmon folks... I hope to see some late entries from you regular guys and gals.

Brett (and others?) has gone to a lot of work getting these sponsors and setting this up. It's unfortunate if we can't support them in return and keep these going. Check the calendar, order one or two contest ahead of time, so you have a mini waiting for you, Not you waiting on your order for 2 of the 4 weeks between contests.

I've been waiting on my Westwind order for over a week and a half now, so plan ahead. I don't mean to get all preachy, but I think it needed to be said so I'll step up and be "that guy".

RogerB
15-05-2009, 07:14 PM
I did order my AoW stuff before my trip to London but the shop I bought them from had run out of stock and I didn't get them until the end of the trip. yes I did waste a week working on the Grey Knights but I'm not sure it would have helped. I'm to slow at the moment and my health sometimes gets in the way. I'm not going to aplogise for that.

NeatPete
15-05-2009, 07:21 PM
I don't want any appologies, and prob. shouldn't have said anything at all. I hope noboby takes it personal or to seriously. This is all about fun in the hobby and thats all it should be. I guess I'd just like to see more support for the WAMP specials from its root members. But I'm just one person that joined the boards 5 months ago, so who am I to say anything...

Undave
15-05-2009, 07:28 PM
I think that's part of the problem. Most of the "newbies" that join up for the competition do the same thing on lots of sites and seem to be very, very good. It kind of makes you think "why bother" when one of them submits a piece that you know is way better than you can do. I'm not pointing any fingers and I realise that if we limited it to forum regs then we wouldn't get much exposure but it can be a bit frustrating.

RogerB
15-05-2009, 07:35 PM
No offence taken, just explaining my situation. I probably won't have time for the Westwind one either, despite already having the mini, but we'll see. All that after I personally thanked the Westwing folks in person for sponsoring the comp. I just need to get something finished, it's become the overiding thing for me at the moment.

lizcam
15-05-2009, 07:41 PM
My lack of entry was not a "why bother" issue. It was a "My ex is an ass and now I have to move" issue. I'll be lucky to get my ladder challenge with Ubie finished.

Pyro Stick
15-05-2009, 07:48 PM
I would have entered but even if i had painted up my dark elf (which wouldnt even have been half as good as some of the stuff ive seen on this site) its still missing a piece which i was hoping would have arrived by now. I actually did start painting up the dark elf i was going to enter last night. It took me a hell of a long time to think of a colour scheme i was happy with and i still dont know what colour im going to do his cloak. Im taking part in a 6 hour painting marathon tomorrow so i might just be able to get an entry in on time if the piece its missing comes in the mail tomorrow.

Vern
15-05-2009, 08:09 PM
I kind of agree with Pete - I do plan on entering least two entries for all the comps (apart from Ultraforge, that'll be one :lol:), that way I'm guaranteed of finishing at least one.

This time, however, a bit of real life has intervened, and can't see myself finishing by Monday morn, probably still try, but the figure is to nice to rush it (& I can't strip it - to many unpainted figures for that!)


"why bother" when one of them submits a piece that you know is way better than you can do

Have to say, it doesn't bother me, coz I don't expect to win - I'm just enjoying painting again (admittedly slowly) - For that reason, I'm really looking forward to the Pegaso comp, for the challenge & to see the other entries :D

NeatPete
15-05-2009, 08:09 PM
I think that's part of the problem. Most of the "newbies" that join up for the competition do the same thing on lots of sites and seem to be very, very good. It kind of makes you think "why bother" when one of them submits a piece that you know is way better than you can do. I'm not pointing any fingers and I realise that if we limited it to forum regs then we wouldn't get much exposure but it can be a bit frustrating.

Great point!
Maybe we could discuss things to change this. IDK , maybe random participation prizes, commenting prizes, block the galleries until the contest date etc. Maybe spread the prizes over participation versus just the top three. That may encourage particiaption without drawing in so many ringers? Just some thoughts from me... It's a good point. I enter a few comps but aren't really 'good enough' to ever win anything either. (yet :) )

And I'll admit right now I don't think I'll enter the Ultraforge contest coming up so I've been rather hypocritical with my comments today...

RogerB
15-05-2009, 08:12 PM
I'll probably aim for the comps later in the year and hope the ones more recently will sponsor another comp. I was looking forward to the AoW and Westwind ones. The Ultraforge one was always going to be a push for me. I needed to know if I could just get something smaller finished in a set time, which I haven't yet, although the barbarian has gone quicker and involved much less dettol than the one I'm doing for Liz.

The thing about the prizes is that's what's decided by the sponsors.

Undave
15-05-2009, 09:03 PM
I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing that we're getting such good quality entries, it's just a shame that some people join WaMP just to win the competitions with no intention of contributing to the rest of the site. I mean sometimes you have to ask yourself wether that person would do a tutorial to help improve the standard of the rest of the painters on the site or is it a case of "I've got my prize, screw you guys I'm going home." I kind of view the special competitions as outsider affairs rather than the monthly and the ladder which are local competitions for local people :laugh

NeatPete
15-05-2009, 09:03 PM
I bet Brett could turn on some of that charm and negotiate other prizing structures with the sponsers if he thought it would be better. I can't imagine a manufacturer would really care how the prizes got diveded up, especially if might increase participation. They wouldn't have to give more prizes, just the same amounts distributed differently. They know not everyone is A+ class painter.

arctica
15-05-2009, 09:09 PM
Actually i agree with Pete, but i might not seem very active but i check these forums daily and in many respects it does help the forum itself gain more members and you never know they might stick around too.
I think the best example of that thus far is Schlunz, he joined because he saw the comp but im so impressed with alot of his work, he asks for comments and listens and involves himself in good discussions. Obviously that is just one example and this is a new forum, but maybe we can help influence him and others to look at other model manufacturers, and everyone here is friendly enough but it's always hard to involve yourself into a conversation as such when people have "in-group" jokes etc and their own little cliches.

Well just my two cents to add.

Vern
15-05-2009, 09:27 PM
I can I can't?!

Although the voting structure on the comps is very fluid, and if you see 4 excellent Space Marines (for example) you might give them all the same score, (or lower if you've just been voting on CMON :lol:) but one that stands out, you give the higher mark - take Wag's Treasure Island (which he's deservedly winning)

ScottRadom
16-05-2009, 01:44 AM
Meh, everyone has great points. I enjoy the challenge of the comps. I am really hoping to place one day. I think a participation prize could be slick, maybe drawn from a pool every three months from the active member who've participated over the last three months-ish?

But, I don't think the system is broken. I would love nothing more then to see the WAMP board become flooded with A+ talent that I can steal thoughts and dreams from.

I am going to make a genuine effort to enter every single contest we have. Even possibly at the expense of the WAMP ladder. I am going to finish my GameZone entry and show everyone the awesomesness of it.

But good points all!

Other ideas for painting challenges. Maybe a "team" effort where people get together as a team and each paint up something and the team wins or loses? Shake it up some and really get people having fun slinging paint? Or maybe a pairs comp (I call dibs on Ritual!) or something like that?

I'm enjoying things as is, but I could always enjoy things a little more.

ScottRadom
16-05-2009, 01:47 AM
Also I submitted my montageified entry pic. Thanks to NathanR for the montageness and to all for the tips in what I think improved the fig. I now have a list of stock answers to improving my figs......

Darklord- Wash it with purple, highlight with space wolves grey, use Devlan Mud.

Ritual-Use VMC Vallejo Black Red to shade the flesh.

Everyone- More shading, more contrast, do your metals better!

Lovin' the advice! this is the first time I think I actually went BACK and fixed a mini instead of just going on to the next one and trying to do better on that. Very satisfied with my end result. This is going to be a tough contest! I think I am the poor man in the Goblin pool!

Supervike- Vote for Radom and your wildest dreams will come true!

Darklord
16-05-2009, 11:59 AM
well from my point of view the contests are working.
i set these up with two aimes: to get new members and raise awareness of wamp but also to get members painting more. i feel we have achieved both of these things. i know there is concern about super painters coming along grabbing a prize then running of into the distance, never to be seen again but has that actually happenned? to my lnowledge everyone that has won a prize has posted to the site since, most prizes have been won by people that didnt join the site for that contest. look at the first one we ran the wyrd contest. we got a few new members on the back of that - hinton, arctica, neatpete to name a few (i think!) came over from the publicity of that and they have become stalwarts of the site.
we also need to look at these contest from wamps and the manufacturers side of things. As i said previously one of the aims of these contest from my point of view is to increase membership and awareness, without members joining the site would die a slow death (it nearly did a year or 2 back when we had maybe 4 active members at one point). No we are never going to be a big site like cmon but thats part of this sites appeal - its about painters helping each other to improve and i really feel it does. there is no elitism here, sure we have some world class painters on here - ritual, automaton, Nigel for example but most of us are average. I think most of us have improved a little due to this site. but that leads me to the next point.
Look at it from the manufacturers point of view: why did they sponsor us? times are hard mini companies are struggling so why sponsor a contest? for publicity and to increase sales and this is why having super painters doing hit and runs wouldnt bother me. fantastic entries show sponosrs the kind of high class we can attract here (and shows other people too) and this is good for us and them, after all the better the entries the better their minis look, the better they sell!
most prizes so far have been won by longer term members and will continue to do so.
Lets put this in context: we have less than 100 members - we are (if you exclude the ebay time) about 6 months old yet we managed to get 10 companies to sponsor us - good companies too - Avatars of War, Ultraforge, Gamezone, Armorcast to name a few are big well known names in this hobby. and they are putting up some bloody good prizes . Avatars of war are putting up about £150 worth pf prizes - Ultraforge offering a £80 dragon - Pegaso over £100 odd quid of prizes. These are great prizes and im over the moon we got them. These are prizes that are hard to win for a reason. I dont believe there is anyone on this forum that cannot win a prize in one of these contests. another reason why better painters help. if the standard is higher it should push others to raise theie standard which is what we want in the end. if you knew only me and ian were entering would you try as hard? probably not and thus your standard would be lower.
by the way the decision on prizes is partly mine partly the sponsors - sometimes they ask me to suggest sometimes they offer whats in their mind.

Dont forget all these contest and the ladder and monthly ones are there for those that want to enter them - i dont keep count of who enters what and it wouldnt bother me if someone never entered any contest. You may not feel like painting a pegaso sculpt but you may love westwind stuff. Sure i would like each contest to have 50 entries but it doesnt work like that how many entries do cmon get on theirs compared with membership numbers?
i do put up contests as soon as i have confirmed them so you know whats happening in November, i did this to give people the maximum amount of time to prepare if they wanted too. bear in mind that we dont push contests elsewhere until it is their turn, this in effect gives wamp members a head start over others.i order my stuff 2 months in advance now, so i have it ready and i could start it when i liked even if its weeks away
At the end of the day guys enjoy them, if any take your fancy and your able too then join in, if you cant then no need to justify yourself.
at the end of the day we will know if they have been a sucess or not by what the sponsors say when i ask them to help us with another one!

Vern
16-05-2009, 02:04 PM
All very good points, & DL's right, it does push you to complete figures, and try out different ranges (never heard of Westwind before the comp announcement, and they make sweet stuff - I've made 3 orders since)

@Scott - montages, definitely the way forward

nico_fig
16-05-2009, 02:42 PM
Hi everyone,

I have finish my two minis and I had post them. Pics are not very good, mini aren't too ... But it push me to paint two mini in a short time and for me it's really increadible ! There are no winning enter, but it fills the contest album ! Be sure that i hope your advices, to make better thing next time.

Nico.

PS : yes yes i will post something in the presentation categorie !

Darklord
16-05-2009, 02:50 PM
very nice Nico, glad you find the contest useful.
im sure you will get some feedback on it once judging starts

NeatPete
16-05-2009, 03:57 PM
Sweet figs there nico! I love em! Cool bases as well, I love the little crystals on the dwarf and the chunky shrooms on the goblin. Looking really good!

Darklord
16-05-2009, 04:39 PM
well i have been taking photos of my entry since 10am - its now gone 4.30 and still not done! i think i have found a decent enough setup for now - not perfect but bet for now. he lokos great in real life but he aint photogenic. btw my daughter has named him - Ratagoatie

agproductions
16-05-2009, 04:52 PM
Alright, I'm officially ticked off at CMON. I placed an order for a Necromance nearly 5 weeks ago and as of today, 2 days from the contest end date, its still not here.

Apparently I'll be waiting until the Urban Mammoth competition comes up. At least I've already got some of their models.

lizcam
16-05-2009, 04:57 PM
I'm so sorry about that AGP. That's one of the most frustrating thing about this hobby. It's not like you can pop around the corner and get what you need. You have to rely on a third party and the post to get things to you in a timely manner. Then if they don't you and up with minis that you may have little use for (although a mini gained is never a waste).

I'm glad you have the urban mammoth one. Check out some of the other comps and see if you're interested and then grab a mini or two for them as well. Then you won't have to worry about it later.

waghorn41
16-05-2009, 05:20 PM
Contests are geat fun and encourage me to push myself, try something different. OK doesn't always work :oops: But, altthough my AoW mini turned up too late I will be getting it assembled and primes ready for a future comp, AoW or otherwise. I don't mind being up against super painters, I like the chance to pit my theme interpretation against the mighty. Hipefully now I've got that dvd I'll have time to watch it and improve my painting too.

Pyro Stick
16-05-2009, 05:30 PM
Ok im definately not going to be able to enter this one now. I was counting on getting the last piece i needed for my aow but aow seem to take forever to get things shipped out to you (must be the spanish post or soemthing) but it never arrived. And i think my digital camera has died as well. Ill still finish painting my entry up and post it later.

Darklord
16-05-2009, 05:38 PM
well ive taken 121 photos today of this mini and still havent got a decent photo. tried with light tent without, one lamp 2 lamps, three , manual setting, auto settings, different exposure levels.even another camera really annoyed - its saturday night but i aint stopping until i've got some reasonable shots of this thing. why cant they just make it so cameras work how they should

RogerB
16-05-2009, 06:01 PM
Make sure you bring your camera to the PB event, maybe I can help you figure it out, Brett. Not that I'm an expert but it certainly won't hurt. Of course it won't help for this one but maybe for future pics.

Darklord
16-05-2009, 06:13 PM
cheers Roger appreciate that, it seems to be a focal problem i think. was planning on bringing this fella down as well as dwead pirate to hopefully get some better shots of

Darklord
16-05-2009, 07:53 PM
mines done and uploaded thank god

RogerB
17-05-2009, 06:40 PM
I guess this comp is almost over. I wish I'd done mine. It certainly would have stood out amongst all the goblins and dwarfs.

Darklord
17-05-2009, 07:16 PM
you have until midnight to get your masterpiece in.

@Roger - its a shame but it happens

RogerB
17-05-2009, 08:31 PM
Almost ruined it today making the changes to the skin. Managed to save it though.

Lan
18-05-2009, 02:27 AM
Hi!

I'm new at this forum, I've heard about it only becouse of the painting contest on Coolminiornot.

i posted my work after the deadline, sorry for that I finished it earlier today but only now I had internet connection.

I really love the models, created by Avatars of War, I hope my work is good enought to please the miniatures sculptors and i hope they like it!

Even if I will not be able to take part in the contest it was worth to paint that model.

Cheers!

ScottRadom
18-05-2009, 04:27 AM
Welcome Lan! Great metal work on your Dark Elf. Stupendous!

Man, I entered my best model ever into this and I know I don't have a snowballs chance. Well done to everyone, you guys knocked some excellent stuff out. Some personal best efforts for sure!

Good Luck to all, SuperVike is gonna have his work cut out for him for shizzle.

Nameless
18-05-2009, 07:50 AM
I didn't make it :(
some great entries in the gallery! congratz to all who managed to finish their minis. good luck everyone!

Darklord
18-05-2009, 08:24 AM
welcome along Lan.

Unforunatley your entry was too late to be considered. The deadline was midnight but your entry was posted 2 hours 20 minutes after this which is too long to 'let pass'.

I am sorry about this but we do need to be fair for everyone here and an extra 2 hours for other people may have meant they could enter after all .
i hope you understand. as such your entry was placed in the WIP section so you can still get some feedback on this

lots of great entries in there guys, well done to you all, im glad im not judging this!

Vikey do your thing.

dont forget everyone to go have a look at the entries and leave some comments. i know the painters would appreciate feedback.

http://wamp-forum.com/phpBB2/album_cat.php?cat_id=49

Coneman
18-05-2009, 12:29 PM
A good bunch of entries, well done everyone and good luck.

Vern
18-05-2009, 02:37 PM
A stack of good entries, good luck everyone!

Darklord
18-05-2009, 05:12 PM
Results are in!
you will know them very shortly